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Just had a toasted "everything" bagel (topped with sesame seeds, poppy seeds, something garlicky or oniony) and spread with peanut butter. An odd taste sensation i must say. I think the fact that it was kraft PB probably contributed more to the strange taste. I don't like Kraft that much, too sweet and creamy. I usually always buy Barbour's natural, it's creamy version is still thicker and textury and it's far less sweet rather than way over processed like the other stuff. But i saw one of the staff at the cafe putting pb on her bagel (and about to slice banana on that yum) and i really wanted to have peanut butter. I'm not sure i'm glad i did now lol

So it's down to the verdict in the state of Ohio this time around. The Bush side thinks they'll get it. There are a couple hundred thousand "provisional" votes. These are people that weren't on the official elector list and were added at the poll. They may or may not count if there is a dispute. WTF is up with that???? And how can you tell whether a ballot came from one of the provisionals or not anyway? I thought votes cast were supposed to be anonymous? Yet last time in Florida they were given a list of voters that were provisional and disqualified (mostly black from what i hear who would have voted Democrat). I don't understand any of it. Here in Canada it's one vote per person per candidate, pencil and paper. If you get added to the elector list at the poll, you swear that you are who you say you are (with identification) and you live where you say you live. Vote and it's counted. There's no way to know which ballot went with which person. Popular vote wins the election. none of this crap of voting for someone or something that will then vote for the winner. Electoral College? It just goes to show you just because you've been to college you ain't necessarily smart ;)

Updated Ok, i should correct myself. Here, for federal and provincial elections, we don't vote for the leader directly. We do not get a ballot that says Canadidate A, B or C for Prime Minister. (the leaders of each of the parties generally. There isn't usually an independent running for PM). We vote for the party candidate in our riding. Whichever party gets the majority of ridings, gets the job. So i guess that's similar to the electoral college in one way but not in another. There, whoever gets the state gets all x number of college votes. With us it's one "vote" for one "riding" so to speak and therefore a lot more straight forward. In municipal elections to do vote directly for mayor because at the local level, political parties are not involved. You are not voting for a party locally for council or mayor.

Date: 2004-11-03 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sendingsmiles.livejournal.com
A friend of mine eats the everything bagels, toasted, with strawberry jam.

I tried it once. It was actually and surprisingly quite tasty.

Date: 2004-11-03 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tvor.livejournal.com
I think the weirdness came from the Kraft peanutbutter. Probably my usual Barbour's would have been just fine with the "everythingness".

Date: 2004-11-03 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coinslot.livejournal.com
I'd have eaten that too. Brave person you for giving it a go.

Date: 2004-11-03 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abishag.livejournal.com
How nice to have mayoral and local elections not party dominated.
Local politics here is anyway so circumscribed by law and central government it scarcely gets reported in the newspapers even. But very much party dominated.

The electoral college thing makes sense in a federal system, I reckon; but other people's elections always seem wierd - having to queue(obviously need more stations, or more officials, or more machines or something! and polls that close at 8pm!
And I'm very suspicious of the various electronic and distance options they are trying to introduce over here.

Date: 2004-11-03 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tvor.livejournal.com
Our polls always close at 7 or 8 p.m. too. Are yours later or earlier? I don't see how it's fair that all electoral votes for one state go to the one candidate that wins when some states have more than others depending on population. They have a congress similar to us having a parliament. Why not at least go with however many congress reps get elected, if more are for the republicans, bush wins, or vice versa. That, in effect, is what we both do. The PM doesn't get elected by direct vote, their names aren't on a ballot except as MP in their own riding. THey lead the party, and if the party is voted in, he gets to run things.

Date: 2004-11-03 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abishag.livejournal.com
Well I suppose the it doesn't signify on this occasion, since Bush won the popular vote too. But IMO the damage was done last time, with the Florida fiasco....
The interesting thing I heard was that the biggest group of voters (around a quarter) said their main priority was "moral" issues, as opposed to economic issues, terrorism or other matters. So basically he won on that front.

Our polls are open till 9pm for local elections, and 10pm for Parliamentary, and I've never seen a queue longer than four or five, inside at the table where you collect your ballot.

Date: 2004-11-03 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tvor.livejournal.com
Moral indeed. This is a man who's taking away women's rights by the bucketload, is a scourge on the environment and is doing his best to put gay rights back 40 years. I'm so glad i live in Canada :)

Date: 2004-11-03 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gramie-dee.livejournal.com
Bloody yanks, I wish they'd hurry up with that election so they'll stop hogging the internet. I'm having a real hard time trying to access web sites lol.

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