Far Too Philosophical (for a Monday)

[tvordlj]

Yesterday's Corrie was all about love, specifically someone remarrying someone she didn't love vs. falling in love with someone and disrupting her whole life. The wedding is this week.. will she or won't she? (I already know but don't want to spoil it for any Canadian corrie fans that don't want to know)

The lines of the day that i picked out for my weekly review are also thought provoking, at least for me.

“I was considerably older than you when I felt that not only love had passed me by but failed to register my existence when I met the woman of my dreams”

This from the very socially inept and shy Roy, a virgin until his 40's when he met transexual Hayley. They actually have probably the best relationship in the soap. If Roy can find someone, the woman of his dreams, then perhaps there's hope for the rest of us. I thought i was in love once, but i'm not sure that's what it was now. They say if you think you are in love then you are as it comes in many forms. I think that to be in love properly the other person also has to love you back properly. Caring, trust, committment, respect. All that has to be there in addition to lust :) Otherwise it's just an infatuation. And i certainly wasn't "swept off my feet" at the time. Perhaps it was just an infatuation that i got all caught up in, on his part too perhaps.

“They say marriage is a great institution but who wants to live in an institution?”

This from a relatively new character. We don't know much about his background other than he is divorced with at least one grown child. I'm divorced as well and i won't say i'll never get married again but i've been living on my own for 15 years and i quite like it. It might be nice to have a man in my life, but maybe not full time in my house (flat). But if i were to be swept off my feet....

It also calls to mind recent events in Canada where same sex marriages have been allowed by the province of Ontario. Some say marriage should only be for proper families and gays cannot have children. So... are they saying all those childless couples or couples that adopt are not proper families? What about single parent families? I say that argument is full of shit. If same sex couples want to "live in an institution" like the rest of us, then go for it! On the cynical side, if i have to go through the agony and expense of a divorce in order to break up, i think there should be an equal opportunity for the same across the board! ;) Seriously though, if any two people love each other and want to make that committment, they should be allowed to.

“Your real soul mate could pass you in the street and you'd never know”…“You'd *know*”

The "You'd Know" character didn't meet hers until she was nearly 50. The other character is the one with the infatuation and about to be remarried to her ex. She wondered what if you marry the person you love but they aren't your soul mate. What then? I know for certain, i've never met my soul mate. Not yet. I also know for certain, i will never ever remarry my ex ;) Will i ever meet my soul mate? who knows. They do say you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find the prince.

/puckers up.

Comments

[kate-r.livejournal.com]

Thanks for this. Everything above has a great deal of relevance for me at the moment. I think it's difficult to tell if you love someone as there are so many facets to loving someone. I can be as infatuated with a platonic relationship at times which generally is only expressed in terms of '.. your great'. I don't think one sided relationships work and to be in it with a chance of lasting you have to both feel the same and want the same at the end of the day. They're also damn hard work and unless you feel you are getting what you need from it then what's the point of putting in all the effort. It's not fair on you or the person your with to keep working away at something you're not happy in. Far better to part company and live for yourself. Gosh, relationships can be so awful can't they.

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[tvor.livejournal.com]

definitely one sided relationships or unbalanced ones don't work in the long run. As different as two people can be, if they both have the same goals, then there's a chance. I really think that mutual respect and trust goes a long way too. Even good healthy balanced relationships take a lot of work because of personality differences and if in a hetero relationship, the differences between the genders.

Some say marriage should only be for proper families and gays cannot have children.

[anisoptera.livejournal.com]

Where did they get that idea? Of course gays can have kids and do all the time. Silly buggers. ;)

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[tvor.livejournal.com]

Yeah but you see that argument when the debate rises from the people and groups that are against it. These are sometimes the same people that start quoting from the bible. Well the bible was written for a society nearly 2000 years ago and ok, some of it still applies, but it's also very contradictory to itself isn't it?

Re: Some say marriage should only be for proper families and gays cannot have children.

[anisoptera.livejournal.com]

Yes, whenever that argument comes up and I think every time what complete idiot anyone is who says that gays can't have kids or families.

There are several differnt versions of 'god' in the bible anyway. This link may interest you.
http://alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16146

[acey.livejournal.com]

My perspective (as jaded as it might be) is that sometimes paths veer off into different directions. I don't know if it's a plus or a minus to try to force them to go in the same direction. There are arguments supporting both stances.

As for kissing frogs, sometimes things happen when you aren't even on an amphibian-hunt :))

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[tvor.livejournal.com]

Paths do veer off and i don't know if you can *force* them to change back, I suppose it depends why they veered off in the first place. You definitely need communication and rushing into something isn't good either.

I agree on the other point. You often will find the prince when you aren't hunting at all.